I have also noticed that after "all that breathed" died at the Flood (Gen.7:21-23), including the Nephilim, the Nephilim still appear in other passages later on, such as Num. 13:33 as you pointed out. This means they returned, or roamed the Earth, and it's important to know the same spirits roam the Earth today: "as in the days of Noah...".
I appreciate your findings on the sprits of the Nephilim being the demons, because that thougth process resonates with me. The Nephilim are a real problem. Praise YHWH for the defeat Satan once and for all, at the end of the ages!
Wonderful! I too agree with this study and sentiment about the Nephilim. I pray many of us believers see this post to help u gain understanding of evil & of spiritual warfare.
Side note; how do you embed or link your work into your posts without linking it as a text?
Fascinating series and I love your perspective and how you tie things together. A lot of believers try to pretend the extra biblical writings don't exist or can't be trusted. It's refreshing to find someone who takes them seriously (though obviously we have to approach them with discernment).
I was wondering if you were going to address the matter of the origin of the demons and I'm so glad you approached it head-on!
One thing I will say is I had never quite tied together the nephilim spirits as demons and the demons and locusts in Revelation, so thank you for that!
"Satan was given authority over 1/10 of these hybrid spirits. Like the Devil, they were forced to wander to and fro on the Earth. They sought hosts, preferably human hosts, and did their best to torture and mislead humanity. They became known as evil spirits or demons."
It's kind of sad. They didn't ask to be born. Kind of feels like they shouldn't be punished for the sins of their parents. I made that a central part of Jane's story in my fiction work.
I actually don't believe they were punished for the sins of their parents. Between 1 Enoch and the Book of Giants we have clear evidence that not only were they more wicked than humanity, they actually introduced a number of deeper evils to humanity (cannibalism, blood drinking, sorcery, beastiality, etc). So really they were being punished for their own sins.
1 Enoch 10:9-10 states that the giants, are "corrupt" and that their purpose is to destroy one another and bring wickedness to the earth.
They are described as consuming all the labor of men. When food runs out, they begin to devour humans and each other.
Although those who are imprisoned are directly punished, 1 Enoch 15–16 explicitly states that when the physical bodies of the giants perish, the spirits within them (which are evil because they came from corrupt flesh and "holy Watchers") remain on earth to afflict, oppress, and lead people astray. Meaning their spirits becoming demons is not a punishment but a direct result of their nature.
Moreover, to my knowledge there is no document in existence that records a giant who was not evil.
And yes, I'm sure you're going to say that lack of proof is not proof of lack. Which is true enough. But when it comes to history, especially pre-flood history, there is very little that we can actually be certain of. So when all the evidence points to a conclusion, I have to believe that's the correct conclusion.
That’s not even what I said lol I understand what the scripture says.
But it’s super weird to take something that there’s no evidence of outside of allegory in the first place and need to correct it like ACKSHUALLY.
Most bibles don’t even acknowledge Enoch for a myriad of good reasons. I just think it’s sad that the idea of a population that didn’t ask to be born, has to live homeless and potentially become the spirits of demons, that they weren’t allowed the same agency other beings get. That in of itself is a sad thing. It’s just an observation, it’s not an attack on your religion.
Some great thoughts, Sarah!
I have also noticed that after "all that breathed" died at the Flood (Gen.7:21-23), including the Nephilim, the Nephilim still appear in other passages later on, such as Num. 13:33 as you pointed out. This means they returned, or roamed the Earth, and it's important to know the same spirits roam the Earth today: "as in the days of Noah...".
I appreciate your findings on the sprits of the Nephilim being the demons, because that thougth process resonates with me. The Nephilim are a real problem. Praise YHWH for the defeat Satan once and for all, at the end of the ages!
Wonderful! I too agree with this study and sentiment about the Nephilim. I pray many of us believers see this post to help u gain understanding of evil & of spiritual warfare.
Side note; how do you embed or link your work into your posts without linking it as a text?
Are you asking about how I added part 1 and part 2 to the beginning of this post?
If so, I simply pasted the link for each into my post and then Substack automatically formated it the way you see it.
Yes! I am.. and oh okay. I will try that the next time, thank you!
Fascinating series and I love your perspective and how you tie things together. A lot of believers try to pretend the extra biblical writings don't exist or can't be trusted. It's refreshing to find someone who takes them seriously (though obviously we have to approach them with discernment).
I was wondering if you were going to address the matter of the origin of the demons and I'm so glad you approached it head-on!
One thing I will say is I had never quite tied together the nephilim spirits as demons and the demons and locusts in Revelation, so thank you for that!
Thank you, Kevin. I’m glad you enjoyed it!
"Satan was given authority over 1/10 of these hybrid spirits. Like the Devil, they were forced to wander to and fro on the Earth. They sought hosts, preferably human hosts, and did their best to torture and mislead humanity. They became known as evil spirits or demons."
It's kind of sad. They didn't ask to be born. Kind of feels like they shouldn't be punished for the sins of their parents. I made that a central part of Jane's story in my fiction work.
I actually don't believe they were punished for the sins of their parents. Between 1 Enoch and the Book of Giants we have clear evidence that not only were they more wicked than humanity, they actually introduced a number of deeper evils to humanity (cannibalism, blood drinking, sorcery, beastiality, etc). So really they were being punished for their own sins.
Good point.
Prove to me that every giant in Genesis was evil.
1 Enoch 10:9-10 states that the giants, are "corrupt" and that their purpose is to destroy one another and bring wickedness to the earth.
They are described as consuming all the labor of men. When food runs out, they begin to devour humans and each other.
Although those who are imprisoned are directly punished, 1 Enoch 15–16 explicitly states that when the physical bodies of the giants perish, the spirits within them (which are evil because they came from corrupt flesh and "holy Watchers") remain on earth to afflict, oppress, and lead people astray. Meaning their spirits becoming demons is not a punishment but a direct result of their nature.
Moreover, to my knowledge there is no document in existence that records a giant who was not evil.
And yes, I'm sure you're going to say that lack of proof is not proof of lack. Which is true enough. But when it comes to history, especially pre-flood history, there is very little that we can actually be certain of. So when all the evidence points to a conclusion, I have to believe that's the correct conclusion.
That’s not even what I said lol I understand what the scripture says.
But it’s super weird to take something that there’s no evidence of outside of allegory in the first place and need to correct it like ACKSHUALLY.
Most bibles don’t even acknowledge Enoch for a myriad of good reasons. I just think it’s sad that the idea of a population that didn’t ask to be born, has to live homeless and potentially become the spirits of demons, that they weren’t allowed the same agency other beings get. That in of itself is a sad thing. It’s just an observation, it’s not an attack on your religion.